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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:48 am 
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I don't have the 'xv' driver option! What does it mean? And what do I have to do to make the driver "render accelerated"? Not only add those lines, do I?
'xover' mplayer video driver won't work neither: needs a "subdriver" :?:
I heard of someone using 'sdl', but it doesn't even appear on the list of available drivers (and I emerged the library a few days ago).
I play very much with VisualBoyAdvance, and found it a little slow too... I have a bad feeling about that, because I manage to get screenshots of it normally with Gimp. Shouldn't it use some kind of overlay/framebuffer driver? That's strange. :roll:


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:54 am 
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On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 01:48:26PM +0000, RockmanX wrote:
> I don't have the 'xv' driver option! What does it mean? And what do I have to do to make the driver "render accelerated"? Not only add those lines, do I?

Xv is the X video framework, or whatever it is called, and it is the default
video accel method of most video players. The radeon drivers support it.

about the render acceleration, i bet this involves implementing the
acceleration in the driver, which was only done for the matrox driver last
time i checked.

> 'xover' mplayer video driver won't work neither: needs a "subdriver" [Question]
> I heard of someone using 'sdl', but it doesn't even appear on the list of available drivers (and I emerged the library a few days ago).
> I play very much with VisualBoyAdvance, and found it a little slow too... I have a bad feeling about that, because I manage to get screenshots of it normally with Gimp. Shouldn't it use some kind of overlay/framebuffer driver? That's strange. [Rolling Eyes]

Did you try xine ?

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Sven Luther


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:11 am 
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Radeon does have RENDER acceleration. It's amount of support of that
extension, however, may not be all too great.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sven Luther [mailto:sven.luther@wanadoo.fr]
> Sent: 14 January 2005 13:56
> To: ppczone-users@forums.ppczone.org
> Subject: Re: [Gentoo] A few newbie questions
>
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 01:48:26PM +0000, RockmanX wrote:
> > I don't have the 'xv' driver option! What does it mean? And
> what do I have to do to make the driver "render accelerated"?
> Not only add those lines, do I?
>
> Xv is the X video framework, or whatever it is called, and it
> is the default video accel method of most video players. The
> radeon drivers support it.
>
> about the render acceleration, i bet this involves
> implementing the acceleration in the driver, which was only
> done for the matrox driver last time i checked.
>
> > 'xover' mplayer video driver won't work neither: needs a
> "subdriver"
> > [Question] I heard of someone using 'sdl', but it doesn't
> even appear on the list of available drivers (and I emerged
> the library a few days ago).
> > I play very much with VisualBoyAdvance, and found it a little slow
> > too... I have a bad feeling about that, because I manage to get
> > screenshots of it normally with Gimp. Shouldn't it use some kind of
> > overlay/framebuffer driver? That's strange. [Rolling Eyes]
>
> Did you try xine ?
>
> Friendly,
>
> Sven Luther
>
>
>
>


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:45 am 
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TK>> Hey, does this mean that DRI finally works now with X.org? Should I
TK>> switch to Gentoo, since my system will still eventually chrash
TK>> should I enable DRI with X (I'm a Debian user).
SL> You have a pegasos 2 ? DRI should work out of the box with the
SL> debian X package, and also with the sid dri-trunk packages from
SL> michael daenzer,

I didn't mean that. Of course it works with me, as we already discussed
on the boards of linux.pegasosppc.com last summer.

I meant that no matter what I do, enabling DRI will still eventually
cause my X to blackout into a state where I have to log in via ssh and
restart the computer. If I enable DRI, the uptime will be at most a
week.

Is anyone else getting this anymore (I know it was very common with the
earlier kernels)? I simply cannot be alone with this problem.

But if I am, this must be a private hardware glitch. The thing that
puzzles me, is that it's kinda wierd that the same problem has been with
me since beginning, repeated itself with multiple cards, and otherwise,
the machine is completely stable.

I'm running testing with a 2.6.9 -kernel built from the sources in your
web directory.

SL> at least with AGP cards. No idea about X.org though.

Club3D Radeon 9200 AGP.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:57 pm 
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Quote:
about the render acceleration, i bet this involves implementing the
acceleration in the driver, which was only done for the matrox driver last
time i checked.
So the question is, how to enable the render acceleration? Adding those lines to xorg.conf didn't seem to change anything... I also checked my kernel and found that I had both the new and the old Radeon drivers, so I compiled it again without the old driver. Nothing changed. Are there other kernel options that I could have missed?
It's a mistery...


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:19 pm 
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Is the radeon driver RENDER-accelerated ? I think not.
IIRC that was one of the features added to the Radeon driver before X.org 6.8.0. The other was the improved DRI code, I get about double fps with glxgears (not the best benchmark I know ;). But there are some problems with texture management in this driver that can cause color corruption in non-GLX applications. :/


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:56 am 
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I think I understood how to solve the problem. I will recompile mplayer (and as I'm trying a new install, also Xorg), with the "xv" use flag. Did you have it in your make.conf?
However, I will make a new post on the Gentoo forum about a new problem I got stumbed across... :oops:


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