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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:13 am 
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need to worry about kernel upgrades as it always boot the last kernel (it boots the symlink actually).
By booting ubuntu directly through bootmenu you may experience problems when an ubuntu kernel update is available.
If you install mkvmlinuz from our package repository (this will be a public, announced thing once we have more than one package in it..) then it will create a /boot/vmlinuz link for you and you can always boot from that to get the latest kernel version.

deb http://packages.ppczone.org/ dapper main

It will cause a problem if you are a kernel developer who wants to keep 10 kernels around and boot from the latest one with a symlink - any Ubuntu kernel update will just blast over the symlink without asking. But this is a minor inconvenience (I always use two links anyway, one for the stable OS and one for whatever kernel I am playing with :)

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If you install mkvmlinuz from our package repository (this will be a public, announced thing once we have more than one package in it..) then it will create a /boot/vmlinuz link for you and you can always boot from that to get the latest kernel version.
that's exactly wat we need to get rid of the complicated grub2 stuff ;-) thx !
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I always use two links anyway, one for the stable OS and one for whatever kernel I am playing with Smile
fair enough ;-)


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If you install mkvmlinuz from our package repository (this will be a public, announced thing once we have more than one package in it..) then it will create a /boot/vmlinuz link for you and you can always boot from that to get the latest kernel version.
that's exactly wat we need to get rid of the complicated grub2 stuff ;-) thx !
WE HAVE A PLAN!

Talking with the Ubuntu guys now and working through things. The plan is to fix up Edgy; since this is due for a release soon, it is a good place to do testing on the bleeding edge.

Once it works it will then be backported to Dapper on the next available update.

I am also investigating getting some OFFICIAL Ubuntu kernels from the CDs and not ones that I hacked up myself.

Please stay tuned :)

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Good work!.. Lets hope it happens. And what was the reason Ubuntu devs dropped direct Peg support again? AFAIK it was there with breezy and then was dropped or something like that??

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:27 pm 
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Good work!.. Lets hope it happens. And what was the reason Ubuntu devs dropped direct Peg support again? AFAIK it was there with breezy and then was dropped or something like that??
It's not really important why they did it.

No hoping required though; it's already halfway done. I downloaded Edgy while we had the Ubuntu guys in IRC, working over the major problems, and it installed absolutely fine out of the box, and made me a compatible kernel, and the right kernel is on the Edgy DVD (not CD however, but the NetInst has it if you wanna wait 6 hours for the install to get packages) too.

So if you guys want to install Ubuntu and don't mind Bleeding Edgy (haha) then that is where to go. We will fix up Dapper and make a Genesi Installer of it anyway for everyone else who can't be bothered waiting for it.

The major showstopper problem right now is they migrated to X.org 7.1.1 - which has exactly the same PCI domain support problem as Fedora Core 6 tests and OpenSUSE 10.2 tests. That's 3 distributions now which are pretty much not working but still in beta.

Gentoo is also broken if you unmasked 7.1.1 so that makes four :)

They are all working together like eager beavers though to fix it, and by Christmas we should have the best Pegasos support ever known in Linux (maybe some other hardware too :)

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Well good news, we await Christmas eagerly. :-)

However, as to the Xorg 7.1.1 probs with Gentoo - Geoffrey is using Xorg 7.1 and it seems OK with Gentoo

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:21 pm 
Please release "Edgy" soon so that we can get rid of that rubish b*s***d Dapper !


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I boot ubuntu using grub2 and as the new kernals come out I just use the update manager in ubuntu to install them. I've never hhad a problem. Am Inot etting the actual kernal installed using this method?


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When you are updating in that minor I really dont think you are actually updating the kernel. You have to take other steps as abstractly described on this thread...

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