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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:50 am 
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mvdhoning wrote:


Their aim to introduce it on August the 4th is quite optimistic IMO. But bring it on...
Anyway, I wonder how Genesi gets a better PR. A never heard of company gets quite some coverage, but Genesi is mentioned only rarely. Why is that?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:52 am 
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Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:39 am

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mvdhoning wrote:
Is this an competitor of the efika2?

http://www.cherrypal.com/


I think the market is big enough for multiple devices, I certainly do not think it is as black and white as it might seem :)

zylesea wrote:
Anyway, I wonder how Genesi gets a better PR. A never heard of company gets quite some coverage, but Genesi is mentioned only rarely. Why is that?


Because of backlash like this? Sometimes, silence really is golden.
Matt Sealey, Genesi USA Inc.
Product Development Analyst


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:57 am 
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Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:39 am

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You can also see the THTF laptop in the FTF2008 Keynote. The bill-of-materials is less than $100.

We will have more news soon.

R&B :)


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:55 pm 
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http://www.cherrypal.com/ is dead, no webpage at all. but a another link shows something that looks identical to one of the lime computers ?

matt


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The Marketwatch article has been removed. Is everything a fake?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:10 am 
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http://www.cherrypal.com/ is dead, no webpage at all.


It's not dead, not if you have a Flash enabled browser. It shows two different simple "flash intros", one with a "green" (environment) theme, and one with a "liberation" (from Windows, MacOS, giant corporations, energy hog desktops, etc) theme.

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but a another link shows something that looks identical to one of the lime computers?


Well, THTF *is* in the OEM business!

http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/18/cher ... -computer/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/17/cherrypal/
http://www.triplepundit.com/pages/cherr ... 003249.php
http://gizmodo.com/tag/cherrypal/
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/20 ... puter.html
http://techdigest.tv/2008/06/cherrypal_goes_1.html
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/tags/cherrypal
(And for Swedes): http://www.datormagazin.se/nyheter/article261514.ece

(BTW, Datormagazin (or DMz) was once an Amiga dedicated mag, but died with commodore. After it's rebirth it became all "PC" (with Windows/Linux theme))


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"It's not dead, not if you have a Flash enabled browser."

Quite the irony! I have some doubts with the CherryPal's Flash capabilities.. :(


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maybe they use this: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
together with opengl(es)


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:17 am 
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Gnash is still beta. :(


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:07 pm 
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..don't doubt it guys. We are working on it.

R&B :)


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:12 pm 
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mattmatteh wrote:
http://www.cherrypal.com/ is dead, no webpage at all. but a another link shows something that looks identical to one of the lime computers ?

matt


well i cant say about the cherrypal but if they have got their BOM down tight, using the right combination of parts that people actually want to use and pay for in the near future, then it should make some positive cashflow even with all this new x86 lowpower kit hitting the markets shelves now.

it appears their Developer Relations are working hard to listen ,take onboard the feedback and give the users what they want to buy, it also seems they have been watching us and want to emulate our past efforts,but in a far shorter timescale...

and it would seem they may be getting some wider coverage, negative in the case of Elreg but thats to be expected given the news copy.....

as for the LimePC range that seems to exist today, looks Ok (not great though), but seems to lack some of the better off the shelf options available today (11n,Wimax,reprogramable wireless chips etc)to take it into the longer term future as it stands, but then they may have a vigurous production line that adds newer options in the next quarters product upgrade run.

if anything they seem to have several products based on the core board existing and runnning today, i wonder if they are using the Efika devs codebase to compile and run on their kit.

they have a simple external low DC power plug and it seems they could run it off (or suppliment a charge cycle) an external small photovoltaic panel or even fit a detachable solar panel on a flip lid that gets sunlight when opened....

many options are possible, including using them as quick install and forget, cheap self contained rooftop Meshed wireless full blown combined PC/remote-NAS/wireless routers for your community LAN etc.

the Efika2 will be better, cheaper and have all those and the missing longer term options from day one though Wont it?

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/09/hand ... he-limepc/

Hands-on with the LimePC

by Chris Ziegler, posted Jan 9th 2008 at 11:20PM

Image

...
THTF (which stands for Tsinghua Tongfang, if you must know) is at CES showing its LimePC series of simple, lightweight computers, and we took a particular interest in three of 'em, ordered by size from largest to smallest: the UMPC, HandheldPC, and PalmPC (pictured) models.

All three pack an uber-low power mobileGT core from Freescale, WiFi, Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR, and touchscreen displays; the Palm PC and HandheldPC feature either 8 or 16GB of Flash, while the UMPC upgrades to a hard drive between 30 and 100GB in capacity.

Though both the hardware and the Linux-based software were extremely raw here, we see promise in these totally hackable little beasts -- particularly in the smaller of the two, both of which are totally pocketable. Check out the gallery to see all three doing their thing.
...
"

i cant say im to impressed with the PR speak, but they do make a point about hardware-based Security,
and in todays Deep Packet Inspection/Interception
of ISP installed wiretapping of YOUR datastreams and that of every single website owners content you visit
then secure ene to end (encrypted)Security is a good selling point to any ISP phorm/NebuAD intercepted end users out there today.

http://usa.mtcera.com/about/index.html

"...
Think Security

At the heart of the Lime PC experience lies in perhaps the most dramatic new technology concept in today's marketplace.

LimeConnect is our proprietary hardware-based, transport-agnostic secure data delivery platform.

It is a freely available tool to solve the complexities and incompatibilities that are hampering growth and adoption in today's consumer media markets.

It is the simple, ubiquitous secure devliery means that has long been needed by the music, video, movie, web and digital services industries.
...
"

you should read up on Phorm if you havent already, theres a new End users Https end to end secure market opening up if you have the infrastructure and contacts in place to roll out secure UK/EU/and even US based web services with a free entry and basic use package to pull them in.

perhaps charge a national rate help desk phoneline to cover those free base tunneled Htttp and Https packages....

http://news.google.com/news?oe=utf-8&rl ... earch+News


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:41 am 
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Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:39 am

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Stand by folks...

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The EFIKA in the open Open Client case is shown next to the LimePC/Cherrypal and keyboard. The shipping box is on the upper left. They are the same devices.

We will have a number of systems to distribute to developers. We will post the details soon. This device will be the principle target for the 5121e Developer Program.

R&B :)


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:39 am 
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bbrv:
Interesting..

How deeply involved are you in the development of these platforms?

I was under the impression this was something between THTF and Freescale,
with possibly only some "PR" to the community through Genesi.

To me it seems that you are much more involved..

You have worked with end-user devices before during Thendic, what
was the name again, SmartBoy something?

Then you will know what the people are after. As long as the device
suits the end-user's needs the CPU-architecture is irrellivant.

When you have a great product (with good margins :-)), that I can
offer my clients, you know where to find me! :)


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cherrypal goes intel atom270 nowadays?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:42 am 
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Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:39 am

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...and so it seems. Rather than green, over time it seems brown might be a better color choice for Cherrypal. Clearly marketing will only get you so far. It seems Cherrypal and THTF have gone their separate ways.

The 5121e Developer Program we had planned was canceled due to a lack of funding from THTF and/or Cherrypal (not paying a single outstanding invoice also concerned us). We have posted details about the situation in other threads.

Perhaps, Freescale may one day again be interested in a Program for industrial and/or automotive applications where the chip should be very successful. Freescale was a Sponsor of the EFIKA Developer Program and many good results came from this effort.

R&B :)


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