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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:49 am 
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I tried to get my hands on some code using git, but the URL posted earlier in this thread just gave me a password prompt. The git web interface on the FreeDarwin site also looks empty. Where can I find something to play with?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:27 am 
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Neko wrote:
bbrv wrote:
Sorry about that! We will reach out to one of the Darwin Developers that has an ODW. He is also on the Gentoo Power Team so he is still around. Apple announced the end in July and then in August Darwin 8.7 (Mac OS X 10.4.7) was released. We are not the people to ask where Darwin is headed, but we will check on the situation.


At least, the major project drive is dead;

http://www.opendarwin.org/en/news/shutdown.html

What point is there now? Apple moving off to Intel, they will drop Power in the end. Running Darwin on it's own with X and so on is no different to booting FreeBSD.

Time would be better spent getting one of the other operating systems off the ground. FreeBSD, NetBSD, both are good candidates and share similar system design (in fact Darwin's toolset is based on FreeBSD, as Linux's toolset is GNU)


I don't agree with you Neko. For the moment I own Macs ( real Macs with Power processors ). I want to run Mac OS X on Power processors as long as possible. Because for me, it get the best soft with the best hardware. I'm sure I will by a Peg on day in order to boot Mac OS X on.

... and when Apple will make war to its good old custumors... I will go to Linux ( or BSD ) on Power. But, we are still no there. So I really think it's a good idea and a good job to work on booting Mac OS X on Power(full and efficient) machines.

:wink:


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:19 am 
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SoundSquare wrote:

Oh yeah, i'd love to use cubase SX on my Peg, work on my own music with it and claim "i made it on Pegasos". something i can't do for now. And it's only an example.
You think in terms of business/marketing only here, i think in terms of FUN !


In my case, I would like to use Final cut Pro, this software is a nice vidéo editing program. I use it at work.

GO GO GO Sonic !!!


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 Post subject: Status report
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:49 am 
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Good news: yesterday i've resumed. I've written VESA driver however it has some bugs - i see nothing on the screen (i expect to see a usual Apple bootup picture). I know where the problem is and i'm working on it.
Direct hardware VGA driver is suspended - it slows down the development. It can be fixed later.
GIT is really empty, i don't know what's wrong with it. FreeDarwin's author also disappeared. Probably we'll have to find some another storage. But anyway i still don't have SVN/CVS/GIT/etc access.


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 Post subject: Re: Status report
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:50 am 
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Sonic wrote:
Good news: yesterday i've resumed. I've written VESA driver however it has some bugs - i see nothing on the screen (i expect to see a usual Apple bootup picture). I know where the problem is and i'm working on it.
Direct hardware VGA driver is suspended - it slows down the development. It can be fixed later.
GIT is really empty, i don't know what's wrong with it. FreeDarwin's author also disappeared. Probably we'll have to find some another storage. But anyway i still don't have SVN/CVS/GIT/etc access.

Anyway i expect to see an Apple logo and Happy Mac on my display soon.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:53 am 
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Well, well, it starts working...
There are some problems with the display, i see random pixels instead of boot picture. Will find out what's wrong soon. VESA mode switching works fine.


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Cool.

Keep going on.

It your code run fine, my next machine will be a Peg "dual" G4 running MacOSX.

:)


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 Post subject: Status update
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:48 am 
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Yesterday i've fixed BootX code a bit. Gray color is now really gray. :D Still garbage on the screen instead of Apple logo, i guess i'll fix it today.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:01 am 
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The new GIT repository can now be found at:
git://git.geekfire.com/git/bootx-devel.git
It's read-only account for anonymous access. Ask DraX@#FreeDarwin for the developer access.
The code is still out of date there, however i'm trying to gain some access in order to update it to the recent, completely working version.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:40 am 
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does that mean that we may have something nice for christmas ?
good work Sonic, impressive work.

I have a few naive questions, but maybe it's a bit too early for you to answer them :

- does that mean that if we insert a MacOS X install CD/DVD and pressing "C" we may be able to boot on the CD ?

- What about the Pegasos2 hardware ? will all components be available on MacOSX ? can we use the drivers from MOL ? Will our radeons be 3D accelerated ?
or maybe we'll have to use a mac version of these GFX cards ?

this is getting REAL, that's amazing.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:22 am 
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1. I'm afraid 2 weeks (4 evenings in fact) won't be enough to get the kernel up and running (well in the best case the kernel will run however with no drivers). Currently just a bootloader is working, not the rest ot the stuff. Kernel and drivers are remaining. Sorry guys.
2. Pressing "C" is a Mac-specific feature. On Pegasos i start BootX by a usual OpenFirmware command like this:
boot hd:6 /boot/BootX cd:,\mach_kernel -v
In order to use it you'll be able to add such a command to your bootmenu.
3. MacOS X already has drivers for USB, ieee1394, VIA IDE, PC-compatible serial port, AC97 sound codec and some graphics cards. Some of them (USB, ieee1394, video) are expected to work out of the box, others will require recompiling and probably some fixing (they are currently shipped only with x86 version of MacOS). In addition i'll need to write completely own drivers for Marvell PCI bridge and Amiga RDB hard drive partitioning scheme.
The finished product will likely look as some Linux-based pre-installation kit which prepares your HDD, puts modified BootX and necessary OS X drivers to the boot partition and starts the OS X installed from the CD. However it's really too early to talk about this.
MOL drivers won't be useful since they work with some virtual MOL's hardware which simply doesn't exist in the real world.
4. 3D acceleration is expected to work as long as your video card is supported by native OS X drivers.
5. You won't have to use Mac version of video cards. "Mac version" means that the card has FCode instead of PC video BIOS in its ROM, which is necessary for Mac's firmware to boot up the card to be able to display something on it. As you know Pegasos is able to boot up normal PC cards. MacOS X drivers don't rely on video card's ROM in any way so there's no difference for the OS itself which card to use.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:29 am 
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Paris
thanks for your very clear answers !


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