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 Post subject: Status of Efika 2
PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:18 am 
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Hello all,

I would like to know what is the actual status of the developpement of the Efika 2 board (MPC2151e). I have proposed a project more than 6 month ago and I have no more news !

Is the board ready ? Can I have a board ? Is my project accepted ? Do you have any news ?

Thanks in advance for any infos about this project and thanks for your work.

Jobe


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 Post subject: Re: Status of Efika 2
PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:17 am 
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Hello all,

I would like to know what is the actual status of the developpement of the Efika 2 board (MPC2151e). I have proposed a project more than 6 month ago and I have no more news !

Is the board ready ? Can I have a board ? Is my project accepted ? Do you have any news ?
Put simply; no, no, no, no.

You can read more about the 5121e chip and problems and status of the project on this forum thread.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:19 am 
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Hi Jobe, be sure there is no one more disappointed than we are. Further, it is unlikely the MPC5123 will ever make it to market.

R&B :)

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 Post subject: Re: Status of Efika 2
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:54 am 
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Hi all :)

I have small question too :)


What is the actual status of the developpement of the Efika 8610 board ?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:00 am 
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As mentioned in the other thread, CherryPal has no money and has not paid their invoices so we have stopped the development. In the meanwhile, we have a few 8610 development machines and we are supporting them (e.g., MPC8610 openSUSE). We have a number of prospects for an 8610 development, but none have decided to go ahead yet. BTW, we are expanding the openSUSE support to the 8641D.

One other note: Freescale has no roadmap ahead for the 8610. This makes it very difficult to sell more than hardware/software combination. To get the 8610 to the market is going to take more than just the standard historical approach. We have not given up. We are working on a number of fronts.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:39 am 
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Thanks for your explanation, I appreciate it.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:43 pm 
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i was just browsing the web and found the netflix link to http://www.roku.com/netflixplayer . i have been looking for something similar to that for the last 2 years. that device would be nice but dont see the point in paying for something that only netflix controls. usb and firewire would be nice.

i have also been looking for an upgrade to my linksys wrt54g.

i know the netbooks are the new thing. (my ibook was my netbook when i was in school) i am still hoping a new efika is happening, one that might do media or serve as a home router/nat.

matt


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:57 am 
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i was just browsing the web and found the netflix link to http://www.roku.com/netflixplayer . i have been looking for something similar to that for the last 2 years. that device would be nice but dont see the point in paying for something that only netflix controls. usb and firewire would be nice.

i have also been looking for an upgrade to my linksys wrt54g.

i know the netbooks are the new thing. (my ibook was my netbook when i was in school) i am still hoping a new efika is happening, one that might do media or serve as a home router/nat.
Media and home router are two completely different applications, you probably won't find a single box from ANYONE that does both - the cost implications of adding more ethernet ports, PLUS adequate media support, are simply unworkable.

Netgear and Linksys make routers with USB connections for file sharing (or just hard disks inside like the media/gaming routers), and media boxes (connect to TV and use that router to access files), but not both in one box. In any case, having both sitting under your TV is weird. Unless you have cable and your cable modem is sitting next to your TV, you will not connect up very easily. If you're on DSL this is a highly unlikely scenario.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:57 am 
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Look here: http://ces.cnet.com/8301-19167_1-10136321-100.html While not movie playback, it is a router, NAS, and can also display photos :-)

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:38 pm 
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Look here: http://ces.cnet.com/8301-19167_1-10136321-100.html While not movie playback, it is a router, NAS, and can also display photos :-)
:)

The LCD screen is not exactly innovative but it is cute. One thing I think if we made an Efika 2 would be that it should have at least some kind of built-in display as an option. It may only be a small SPI-based OLED thing (perhaps with only one color as was designed into the blade) but in lieu of a serial cable and no display or keyboard it can show boot status, firmware prompt, with a couple of small buttons you could select through a menu of boot options, and then use it to select a mode in Linux (or even run X on it).

Or it could go up this far:

http://www.embeddedartists.com/products ... l_qvga.php

You might notice a very similar sized screen on the Toshiba ARM board :D

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i dont know how that got confused to being one device. i think that would be a bad idea. there are enough wires behind the tv now. i dont even have the router near the computer, its tacked up in the basement joist out of the way so i dont see it.

i was looking for a media computer, ethernet in and video playback. something like the current efika, but with a little more cpu power, pcie ( unless onboard graphics can decode 1080 mpeg2, have digital outputs (vga, dvi, hdmi, display port), optical out. usb and firewire would be nice too :)

i was also thinking of upgrading my router/nat. that would or could be the same device, all it needs is 2 ethernet ports. that could be onboard ethernet and use a pcie card. or have dual onboard ethernet and use a pcie card to make a wireless access point. i have the wrt54g now, and it works fine, but it is a little lacking on cpu and ram. also, some day i might want to upgrade to wireless N.

i was still hoping for an efika 2 release sometime soon (actually a while ago). i was posting to see if someone knew of an existing device that might work and give a hint to genesi to possible make those 2 devices at the same time as the netbook; use the same board layout or very similar.

everyone is jumping on the netbook thing, i dont think its anything new. i got my ibook over 3 years ago, that waas and is my netbook. i still get 5+ hours battery on it. just replaced the mechanical drive with a solid state. i would like a low power computer but dont need another laptop.

matt


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:30 pm 
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@ mattmatteh

Based on the MPC8377E then...

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:28 pm 
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Could be something new...

Image

We will write something about this later in the week.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:53 pm 
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i was just browsing the web and found the netflix link to http://www.roku.com/netflixplayer . i have been looking for something similar to that for the last 2 years. that device would be nice but dont see the point in paying for something that only netflix controls. usb and firewire would be nice.

i have also been looking for an upgrade to my linksys wrt54g.

i know the netbooks are the new thing. (my ibook was my netbook when i was in school) i am still hoping a new efika is happening, one that might do media or serve as a home router/nat.
Media and home router are two completely different applications, you probably won't find a single box from ANYONE that does both - the cost implications of adding more ethernet ports, PLUS adequate media support, are simply unworkable.

Netgear and Linksys make routers with USB connections for file sharing (or just hard disks inside like the media/gaming routers), and media boxes (connect to TV and use that router to access files), but not both in one box. In any case, having both sitting under your TV is weird. Unless you have cable and your cable modem is sitting next to your TV, you will not connect up very easily. If you're on DSL this is a highly unlikely scenario.
you answer your own developer relations markets your supposed to be questioning and pushing for, assuming you want ot make any Long term profits OC, I.E ANYTHING/ANY SPACE the others have NOT yet tryed and already Filled....

its been clear for a very long time ,even well before the so called popular x86 netbook mass market came full on ,theres Nothing coming from you and yours ,even though it was pointed out clear as day,any basic wireless 11n, and embeded Encoder/Decoder, video.in /video out, and LAN chipset connected to HDMI was the place to be, and were everyones making their profits today and the near future now.

you missed the last three christmas shots, and even today you refuse to build, or see this basic low power static/mobile HD streaming video application need/want apparently.....as everyone else finally makes their late to the party, money over the cristmas period and beyond...

you were there before the race even got advertised, you apparently stood by watching, and totally missed the first,second and third HD wire(less) races on purpose, without even trying to make at least something to make your mark and set out your hardware stall.

just a very quick search brings you this cheap yet powerful mobile/handheld chipset/SOC (OC you could also use it in a 3rd party USB stick and the like , anyone doing that today), not as flexable as FPGA OC and not a PPC SOC but its cheap and flexible, and Ohh look...

"Each chip is a real-time H.264/MPEG4-AVC High Definition (level 4.1) Encoder/Decoder (Codec) that provides the ideal mix of flexibility and power efficiency for consumer electronics
applications....."

"full HD (1920x1080). Qpixel
is also raising the power-performance bar by being the first to offer
full HD H.264 encoding at less than 275 mW of power,"

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRel ... BW20080602
Industry's Lowest-Power Full HD H.264 Codecs With the Broadest Feature Set Unveiled...
Sun Jun 1, 2008 8:00pm EDT"

"

http://www.videsignline.com/products/21 ... 0CJUNN2JVN

true, its a large chip but its billed as "... are claimed to offer the industry's largest density, highest performance, highest system bandwidth, and lowest power among high-end FPGA solutions. "

as just one simple off the shelf example,you could even activate its gigaE ports and use it on your LAN and make an HD encoder multicast tunneled end to end mesh for multi PIP TS feeding out of them got to think bigger and turnkey USB3 to make real long term money OC... but thats for the longer term future OC and want to make it happen as the HW vendor"

http://www.videsignline.com/howto/21270 ... SCJUNN2JVN
The Digital Living Network Alliance (DLNA) and the High-Definition Audio-Video Network Alliance (HANA) are both working on home networking solutions that can distribute video entertainment. Both recognize that simplicity is the number one goal. However, the definition of 'simple' in the PC world is not the same as it is for watching a TV.
....
"

OC unless this so called power developers org pulls its socks up PDQ, the world will have passed you by, and taken every single finantial and tech advantage idea you had placed in your hands here years before them, and left to squander the basic concepts and projects, untouched and unexplored.

its probably far to late already ,you didnt have anything to sell into the markets at cristmas, theres nothing for the january sales,or CES and theres nothing of merit outside the posts in the MB database...

the US turns off the analogue in a few days time, and theres still oneone cobbleing togetehr the off the shelf cheap and chearful HD streaming video SOC parts and adding them to any NON x86 prototype/reference board.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:22 am 
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I have to agree with "popper", although is an unpleasant read.

What's that computer pictured aside the Efika Open client, in latest BBRV post? Is that a Texas Instruments logo in the biggest chip, in the centre?


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